For veterans with Gulf War Illness, an explanation for the unexplainable symptoms

One in four Gulf War veterans suffers from Gulf War Illness (GWI). The condition is characterized by unexplainable chronic fatigue, muscle pain and cognitive dysfunction and may be associated with exposure to chemicals, many identified as genotoxins, during deployment.

Previous studies suggest that the symptoms of GWI are due to dysfunction of the mitochondria, the site in cells where molecules that power the body's processes are produced. Not producing enough energy slows down the body and leaves the individual feeling tired. New preliminary research to be presented at Physiological Bionergetics: From Bench to Bedside shows for the first time direct evidence of greater mitochondrial damage in Gulf War veterans.

The mitochondrion has its own DNA, separate from the cell's, that encodes the proteins needed to produce the molecules that power the body's processes. Damage to the mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) directly affects the mitochondria's ability to function and produce energy. Increases in the amount of mtDNA have been associated with disease. In this study, researchers measured the mtDNA amount and degree of mtDNA damage in blood cells from blood samples from veterans with GWI. Compared with healthy non-deployed controls, Gulf War veterans had more mtDNA content and greater mtDNA damage. According to the researchers, these findings further support that may be involved in GWI. "Future studies are necessary to confirm these findings and determine their association with . Work in this area may guide new diagnostic testing and treatments for suffering from GWI," the researchers wrote.


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JVK
Sep 12, 2015
Mitochondrial damage is virus-driven in victims whose organized genomes are not ecologically adapted to the epigenetic landscape of different parts of different countries.

The likelihood that the DNA damage could be repaired with proper nutrition or supplements seems to not have been considered despite knowledge of how American Indians were killed by the smallpox virus.

Evolutionary theorists continue their killing spree and also contribute to much suffering by those who are not killed by their ignorance of biologically-based RNA-mediated cell type differentiation.

Sep 13, 2015

The likelihood that the DNA damage could be repaired with proper nutrition or supplements seems to not have been considered despite knowledge of how American Indians were killed by the smallpox virus.

@JVK

There is no cure or treatment for smallpox so WTF are you babbling about?


Sep 13, 2015
Mitochondrial damage is virus-driven in victims whose organized genomes are not ecologically adapted to the epigenetic landscape of different parts of different countries.

@JVK

Mitochondrial damage can have any number causes, I would suggest you read the scientific literature but we all know you struggle with reading comprehension.

https://scholar.g...Ch136QES

Sep 13, 2015
The likelihood that the DNA damage could be repaired with proper nutrition or supplements seems to not have been considered despite knowledge of how American Indians were killed by the smallpox virus
@jk
WTF????
1- how does your comment in ANY way tie smallpox deaths of the Native Tribes to failed nutritional supplements?

2- as for the above article: how does your post relate to Gulf War Syndrome at all?

before you mouth off about MORE things you don't understand, you should read up a little:
http://www.nap.ed...-bromide

https://en.wikipe...syndrome

your above statements are not only OFF TOPIC, but display a complete disregard for any scientific integrity as well as ignorance regarding Gulf War syndrome

quit posting PSEUDOSCIENCE and making unsubstantiated claims

JVK
Sep 13, 2015
quit posting PSEUDOSCIENCE and making unsubstantiated claims


Biologically uninformed science idiots continue to destroy any attempt to discuss what is currently known to serious scientists about viruses and pathology compared to nutrient-dependent RNA-mediated healthy longevity.

http://cancerres....abstract Excerpt: "This paradigm shift in cancer cell biology and mitochondrial genetics, concerning mitochondrial movement between cells to meet bioenergetic needs, not only adds another layer of plasticity to the armory of cancer cells to correct damaged mitochondria, but also points to potentially new therapeutic approaches."

See also: http://medicalxpr...lth.html

MedicalXpress.com appears to be a haven for science idiots whose pseudoscientific nonsense will probably lead to the death of us all.

See: http://www.rnasociety.org/ or http://rna-mediated.com/

Sep 13, 2015
rna-mediated.com/
PSEUDOSCIENCE PHISHING SITE
this site contains RELIGIOUS DOGMA from creationists as well as delusional belief not supported by scientific evidence (called RELIGION),
therefore IT IS NOT A SCIENCE SITE

reported
Biologically uninformed science idiots continue to destroy any attempt to discuss what is currently known to serious scientists
well, if you would stop posting PSEUDOSCIENCE then it would all go away... you are the only one here who is a "Biologically uninformed science idiot"...

anyone who continues to post creationist dogma after this ruling: https://en.wikipe...Arkansas

is a PSEUDOSCIENTIST and blatantly pushing a religion, not science

JVK
Sep 13, 2015
This award-winning invited review was requested by a guest editor, who works at the VA Medical Center in Houston, TX

The Mind's Eyes: Human pheromones, neuroscience, and male sexual preferences
http://www.sexarc...kohl.htm

"This model also provides a detailed gene–cell–tissue–organ–organ system pathway from sexually dimorphic hormone-associated olfactory input and from MHC/HLA-associated olfactory input to sexually dimorphic behavior."

"The five-step logical pathway that directly links sensory input from the social environment to the development of sexual preferences and sexual behavior is gene→cell→tissue→organ→organ system. Failure to incorporate any of the steps in this pathway makes it impossible to directly connect to sexual preferences and sexual behavior, a logical sequence of events that must somehow and somewhere begin with the effect of sensory input from the social environment."

Sep 14, 2015
The Mind's Eyes: Human pheromones, neuroscience, and male sexual preferences
so?
this is not about the VA ... nor is it about Gulf War syndrome... the questions were:

1- how does your comment in ANY way tie smallpox deaths of the Native Tribes to failed nutritional supplements?

2- as for the above article: how does your post relate to Gulf War Syndrome at all?

not only are you NOT answering it, but you are trying to distract away from your inability to answer it!
IOW- you are trolling for acolytes to recruit to your religion
Also note: considering you have YET to produce validated studies that specifically prove human pheromones, as noted here: http://rspb.royal...full.pdf

then continuing to shove that perfume pheromone crap at people is PSEUDOSCIENCE

your studies are NOT validated, nor do i expect them to be considering your inclusion of religion and creationist dogma

NOW

ANSWER THE QUESTIONS

JVK
Sep 14, 2015
you have YET to produce validated studies that specifically prove human pheromones


I have never been able to prove that appealing food odors cause humans to eat some foods or that aversion leads to the rejection of others. Thus, you and other biologically uninformed science idiots, such as the human pheromone-deniers, have me at a disadvantage.

You need only claim that I have not proved what cannot be proved in the context of increasing organismal complexity that links quantum physics to quantum biology via the de novo creation of nucleic acids and RNA-mediated events linked to cell type differentiation in all cell types of all individuals of all living genera.

I claim: "This model also provides a detailed gene–cell–tissue–organ–organ system pathway..."

You claim that mutations can somehow be linked to something that leads to the evolution of humans from microbes.

Sep 14, 2015
You claim that mutations can somehow be linked... evolution of humans from microbes
1- it is not a claim if there is PHYSICAL EVIDENCE that can not only be PRODUCED, but REPLICATED: that is called validated evidence, especially when multiple unrelated parties come to the same conclusion (not just Lenski, Extavour, but also other issues, like AGW)

2- a claim has all the same validity as any other opinion based claim: NONE

3- in the scientific method, to become a theory, you must have "a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world that is acquired through the scientific method and repeatedly tested and confirmed through observation and experimentation" https://en.wikipe...c_theory
The THEORY of Evolution has that evidence

you do NOT have that evidence

4- if you can't prove something, then basing your further experiments/data upon said subject is like nailing liquid H2O to a tree
AND UN-provable

JVK
Sep 14, 2015
3- in the scientific method, to become a theory, you must have "a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world that is ... repeatedly tested and confirmed through observation and experimentation


See also: http://www.skepti...k-it-is/

Excerpt: "Once there's a scientific consensus, the debate is over."

What kind of biologically uninformed science idiot places this into the context of opinions compared to experimental evidence of facts that link ecological variation to ecological adaptation via nutrient-dependent RNA-mediated events in the context of the physiology of reproduction in all living genera?

The scientific consensus about evolution was reached before anyone considered the role of viruses and perturbed protein folding that links them to pathology in the absence of epigenetically-effected RNA-mediated repair of DNA.

JVK
Sep 14, 2015
Re: Excerpt: "Once there's a scientific consensus, the debate is over."

Let's place the scientific consensus on evolution into its proper context.

"The entire evolution of the microbial world and the virus world, and the interaction between microbes and viruses and other life forms have been left out of the Modern Synthesis..." http://www.huffin...216.html

If it were not obvious to all serious scientists that Lenski's works misrepresented what is known about biophysically constrained cell type differentiation in species from microbes to man, there might not be a need for other theorists to change the Modern Synthesis into something that begins to approach a scientific theory.

See: The extended evolutionary synthesis: its structure, assumptions and predictions http://rspb.royal...20151019

Sep 14, 2015
you have YET to produce validated studies that specifically prove human pheromones


I have never been able to prove that appealing food odors cause humans to eat some foods or that aversion leads to the rejection of others


Well JVK-Skippy I would not be bragging about that. I could probably come up with study to check that out and I am not the hospital lab tech like you are. I am just a towboat engineer, but I eat at a lot different cafes and restaurants.

Thus, you and other biologically uninformed science idiots, such as the human pheromone-deniers, have me at a disadvantage.


What you think it is everybody been trying to tell you Cher? Maybe it is starting to sink in.

Sep 14, 2015
before anyone considered...perturbed protein folding that links them to pathology
@jk
this is patently false
no scientist anywhere is saying every mutation is viable

only ignorance or religion would claim that all mutations are pathological
PERIOD
Let's place the scientific consensus on evolution into its proper context
Ok, LETS!
1- huffington is NOT a peer reviewed journal

2- in science, consensus comes from separate teams/experiments independently run, verified and validated being conducted that all lead to a singular conclusion (as in AGW)... it is not a group vote about how we should perceive things, thus your claims about "consensus" is based upon your fallacious interpretations of the scientific method

this is obvious in your claims about mutations as well as other non-scientific claims
Lenski's works misrepresented
this is called LIBEL as well as a fraudulent claim
you have never once proved that Lenski's work misrepresented anything

Sep 14, 2015
@jk
one of the reasons you have ZERO credibility is comments like this
If it were not obvious to all serious scientists that Lenski's works misrepresented what is known
You have made a CLAIM
you had NO evidence
you promote RELIGION, not SCIENCE

this is called, in legal terms, LIBEL

until you get evidence, you should consult with an attourney and hope Lenski doesn't press charges, especially considering that if you ever get into court, then you will definitely lose

JVK
Sep 14, 2015
this is called, in legal terms, LIBEL


In the context of science it is called "Combating Evolution to Fight Disease" http://www.scienc...88.short

Lenski should arm himself with information about biologically-based cause and effect and fight against my claims that he is biologically uninformed. Claims that he is "The Man Who Bottled Evolution" http://www.scienc...90.short are ridiculous.

See for comparison: All in the (bigger) family http://www.scienc....summary

"The study of key developmental processes also stands to benefit from the new family tree. In insects, falling levels of so-called juvenile hormone stimulate the transition to adulthood; the analogous hormone in crustaceans is methyl farnesoate... But researchers have learned that production of both hormones depends on the same rate-limiting enzymes. And Jerome Hui of the Chinese University of Hong Kong found that..."

Sep 15, 2015
In the context of science it is called "Combating Evolution to Fight Disease"
@jk
1- no, it is called LIBEL in context of Science or Law PERIOD
(because you've not produced ANY evidence that shows where Lenski has misrepresented anything)
2- that article only proves you are incapable of comprehending scientific studies
your own link
Molecular biology and evolutionary biology have been separate disciplines and scientific cultures... Each discipline can be viewed as a missing link in the other's description of biology, and in medicine
so, your link only shows that there is a JOINING OF DISCIPLINES
nothing more
Lenski should arm himself with information
when you argue scientific ANYTHING...you had better argue from a point of education, and you have failed in that respect

your argument stems from your "INTERPRETATION" of what you read, and you've already proven yourself to be an Epic Failure in that respect with a 100% fail rate here on PO alone

Sep 15, 2015
@jk cont'd
Claims that he is "The Man Who Bottled Evolution" http://www.scienc...90.short are ridiculous
you should study a little more before making stupid comments: LENSKI DID NOT MAKE THAT CLAIM, you idiot!
Elizabeth Pennisi wrote the article AND the title... but i guess you are incapable of actually comprehending that, eh?
See for comparison:
it is almost comical how stupid you can be: Elizabeth Pennisi wrote THAT link as well...
are we supposed to compare her writing style?
maybe you want us to critique and let her know if she is improving? what?

what you've PROVEN above:
-you are not capable of actually comprehending what you read

the reasons? they're limited, but:
-Dementia
-Early onset Alzheimer (debatable)
-stroke
-Delirium tremens
-withdrawal symptoms
-head injury
-mental illness (are you needing to adjust your meds?)
-fanaticism

please note that there may be multiple causes, but you should address them as soon as possible

Sep 15, 2015
so... @jk
when are you actually going to ANSWER THE QUESTIONS?

1- how does your comment in ANY way tie smallpox deaths of the Native Tribes to failed nutritional supplements?

2- as for the above article: how does your post relate to Gulf War Syndrome at all?

you have AVOIDED them, you have changed topics, you have posted PSEUDOSCIENCE
you have libeled an ACTUAL SCIENTISTS, you have proven you can't read, you havce demonstrated that you still can't comprehend science or biology..

BUT YOU STILL HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS

mind you, the questions are about YOUR FIRST POST and the evidence you have to support your perceived conclusions

you gave NO EVIDENCE

i think perhaps you should answer them and PROVE YOUR POINT

or are you avoiding that because you know you CANNOT????

JVK
Sep 15, 2015
http://www.ncbi.n...1770775/

Excerpt: "The strength of this three book set appears to me to be its novel approach to the topic of pathology of human virus infection. Although its attractiveness to a general audience will be affected by its sheer breadth, I can see it finding a niche among virologists and pathologists with an interest in virus infection."

Please provide an example of pathology that you claim is not virus-driven or that would not be prevented by proper nutrition linked to chromosomal rearrangements and all extant biodiversity via RNA-mediated events.

Sep 15, 2015

Please provide an example of pathology that you claim is not virus-driven or that would not be prevented by proper nutrition linked to chromosomal rearrangements and all extant biodiversity via RNA-mediated events.


@JVK

Of all your pathetic statements this has to rank among the very worst. Pathology has many causes: fungal, bacterial, metal toxicity, uv exposure, radiation exposure, and yes, some are viral.

How in the hell could a supposed medical lab tech make such a outrageous claim. Your claim is medical malpractice of the highest order.

Sep 15, 2015
Coccidioides
https://scholar.g...as_sdtp=

metal toxicity
https://scholar.g...toxicity

The epidemiology of UV induced skin cancer
http://www.scienc...01001981

radiation illness
https://scholar.g...dt=0%2C5

bacteria caused pathology
https://scholar.g...athology

Sep 15, 2015
like Vietvet said... "Of all your pathetic statements this has to rank among the very worst"!
your post is the height of blatant stupidity:
Please provide an example
first off, you had best be CLEAR!

1- which -pathology do you want? cyto-? dermato-? Forensic? histo-? Neuro-? Pulmonary? Renal? surgical? Hemato-? Molecular? oral &/or maxillofacial? Psycho-? veterinary? Phyto-?
PLEASE BE SPECIFIC

2- generally speaking, as you are... the easiest way to demonstrate your lack of knowledge when you ask
provide an example of pathology that you claim is not virus-driven or that would not be prevented by proper nutrition
is to simply answer this with: Radiation Pathology
http://www.ncbi.n...1769679/

SEE ALSO: Vietvet's post above!

epic failure for jk again!!
BUT FUNNY to WATCH
(and you're a serious scientist? ROTFLMFAO)

JVK
Sep 15, 2015
Pathology has many causes: fungal, bacterial, metal toxicity, uv exposure, radiation exposure, and yes, some are viral.


Thanks for offering the opinion of a biologically uninformed science idiot who knows nothing about the role of viruses in cell type differentiation during thermodynamic cycles of protein biosynthesis and degradation, which are perturbed by viruses in cases of fungal, bacterial, metal toxicity, uv exposure, radiation exposure, and all other cases linked to pathology.

For comparison UV radiation pathology prevention is nutrient-dependent and controlled by the physiology of reproduction that also links viruses to breast cancer in some human populations, but not ecologically adapted populations with vitamin D levels that protect against colon cancer and vitamin B3 levels that protect against non-malignant skin cancers.

See: http://www.scienc...5004.htm

JVK
Sep 15, 2015
1- which -pathology do you want? cyto-? dermato-? Forensic? histo-? Neuro-? Pulmonary? Renal? surgical? Hemato-? Molecular? oral &/or maxillofacial? Psycho-? veterinary? Phyto-?
PLEASE BE SPECIFIC


I asked you to "...provide an example of pathology that you claim is not virus-driven or that would not be prevented by proper nutrition"

You claim: Radiation Pathology

Vitamin C protects against ionizing radiation damage to goblet cells of the ileum in rats http://www.scienc...08000718

The level of ignorance displayed here has again reached beyond the level of my tolerance. MedicalExpress.com continues to be a safe haven for the biologically uninformed.

Sep 15, 2015
@JVK

That was not my opinion, I provided links to peer reviewed papers, something you can't do with
your "viruses are linked to all pathology".

Write and publish your "viruses are linked to all pathology" in a peer reviewed journal. A
Nobel winner for sure. LMFAO!

Sep 15, 2015

The level of ignorance displayed here has again reached beyond the level of my tolerance. MedicalExpress.com continues to be a safe haven for the biologically uninformed.


Says the idiot who linked to an Islamic creationist blog.

For comparison see: Evolutionists Cannot Account for the Origin of the Sense of Smell
http://www.haruny...ter/5050

Read more at: http://phys.org/n...html#jCp


JVK
Sep 15, 2015
https://www.googl...athology

http://rna-mediat...=viruses

RNA viruses can hijack vertebrate microRNAs to suppress innate immunity
http://www.nature...869.html

Editor's summary:
This paper reports a novel interaction between a haematopoietic-cell-specific microRNA (miRNA) and the eastern equine encephalitis virus (EEEV), an RNA virus that can be transmitted to humans via a mosquito vector. Infected humans show limited symptoms initially but can go on to develop a potentially lethal brain infection. Using a mouse model, the authors show that miR-142-3p restricts the replication of EEEV in myeloid cells through a specific interaction with the 3′ non-translated region of the virus. But this antiviral action at the same time limits the induction of innate immunity and then favours viral replication, exacerbating the disease.

JVK
Sep 15, 2015
Virus in cattle linked to human breast cancer http://www.scienc...5004.htm

Viruses in chicken and Phage spread antibiotic resistance http://phys.org/n...nce.html

Viruses in gut confer antibiotic resistance to bacteria http://medicalxpr...tml#nRlv

Viruses flourish in guts of healthy babies http://medicalxpr...ies.html

Amino Acid Polymorphisms in Hepatitis C Virus Core Affect Infectious Virus Production and Major Histocompatibility Complex Class I Molecule Expression http://dx.doi.org...rep13994

Supersensitive detection and discrimination of enantiomers by dorsal olfactory receptors: evidence for hierarchical odour coding http://dx.doi.org...rep14073

What aspect of biologically plausible pattern recognition is not recognized by biologically uninformed science idiots?

Sep 15, 2015
Vitamin C protects against ionizing radiation damage to goblet cells of the ileum in rats http://www.scienc...08000718


That has absolutely nothing to do with your proposal that radiation pathology is all ultimately due to viruses.

If I get hit with gamma or neutron radiation, my DNA would be shredded to bits by the radiation, not by viruses.

There are a number of maintained cell lines that are virus free:

http://www.ncbi.n...C477481/
http://www.ncbi.n.../3115063
http://www.ncbi.n...MC21839/
http://www.google...S5879924

If I hit those cells with radiation, they would be able to repair all damage because they don't have any viruses around to impede the repair process?

JVK
Sep 15, 2015
You are linking to articles more than a decade old at a time when viruses are still difficult to detect.

They have nothing to do with what is currently known.

The role of viruses in cell type differentiation has been ignored as if the failure to detect them meant they weren't there. That ignorance put an end to any claims about evolution via the fact that no changes have occurred in bacteria living in ocean sediments that theorists claim are ~2 billion years old. Their claims can be compared to virus-driven nutrient-dependent pheromone-controlled ecological adaptation of the bacterial flagellum in 4 days.

If I hit those cells with radiation, they would be able to repair all damage because they don't have any viruses around to impede the repair process?


If not, do you think the cells would evolve into different cell types in different individuals of different species? Is there a model for that, or only pseudoscientific nonsense?

JVK
Sep 15, 2015
... nothing to do with your proposal that radiation pathology is all ultimately due to viruses.


All pathology is due to viruses.

Viruses in MRSA and other antibiotic resistant bacteria link any form of stress-related immune suppression to pathology that is attributed to the bacteria by biologically uninformed science idiots.

You, for example, attribute antibiotic resistance to mutations like most other biologically uninformed science idiots who don't understand the fact that reproduction in bacteria is nutrient-dependent and pheromone-controlled -- like it is in species from microbes to humans.

Sep 15, 2015
You are linking to articles more than a decade old at a time when viruses are still difficult to detect.


4770 results related to virus free cell lines since 2011:

https://scholar.g...sdt=0,14

Sep 15, 2015
Valley Fever (Coccidioidomycosis)
"Valley fever, also called coccidioidomycosis, is an infection caused by the fungus Coccidioides. The fungus is known to live in the soil in the southwestern United States and parts of Mexico and Central and South America. The fungus was also recently found in south-central Washington. People can get valley fever by breathing in the microscopic fungal spores from the air"

"Valley fever that develops into meningitis is fatal if it's not treated, so lifelong antifungal treatment is necessary for those cases."
http://www.cdc.go...mycosis/

According to JVK a Valley Fever patient only needs some supplements because viruses are the cause of all pathology.

Sep 16, 2015
//rna-mediat...=viruses
PSEUDOSCIENCE PHISHING SITE
reported
Vitamin C protects against ionizing radiation damage to goblet cells of the ileum in rats
and to think... all those Japanese in Nagasaki and Hiroshima just could have taken a sh*t load of Vitamin C and survived...OH WAIT! you are full of CRAP again! silly me!
i thought you were being serious! ROTFLMFAO
I asked you to
i followed your stupidity and trumped you with KNOWLEDGE
now it is your turn!
you started all of this STUPIDITY in the very beginning with unsubstantiated CONJECTURE... now
ANSWER THE QUESTIONS

1- how does your comment in ANY way tie smallpox deaths of the Native Tribes to failed nutritional supplements?

2- as for the above article: how does your post relate to Gulf War Syndrome at all?

and stop trying to redirect from your questions!
ANSWER THEM

otherwise you are simply proving (yet again) that you are scientifically illiterate and posting PSEUDOSCIENCE

JVK
Sep 16, 2015
4770 results related to virus free cell lines since 2011:


How did they determine the cell lines were virus-free?

It takes one-nine months for HIV antibody particles to appear in serum -- all the while viral nucleic acids (RNA) could be detected and increases in proteins that correspond with viral replication.

JVK
Sep 16, 2015
According to JVK a Valley Fever patient only needs some supplements because viruses are the cause of all pathology.


Only the most hateful of all biologically uniformed science idiots would attempt to provide an interpretation of my claims that fails to address the experimental evidence of how ecological variation leads to ecological adaptation in all living genera.

See for comparison: http://rna-mediat...eg-bear/

Sep 16, 2015
an interpretation of my claims
it wasn't an interpretation
you really do make those types of fundamentally stupid claims
you don't understand BIOLOGY
and it isn't hateful to point out your intentional stupidity when you post it to a public forum
//rna-mediat...eg-bear/
PSEUDOSCIENCE PHISHING SITE
you can't actually substantiate your claims with reputable peer reviewed journals, so you resort to linking pseudoscience sites that promote creationist dogma
there is NO SCIENCE in creationist religion: this is not a claim, it is PROVEN (here: https://en.wikipe...Arkansas )
reported
American Indians were killed by the smallpox virus
now
ANSWER THE QUESTIONS

1- how does your comment in ANY way tie smallpox deaths of the Native Tribes to failed nutritional supplements?

2- as for the above article: how does your post relate to Gulf War Syndrome at all?

BTW: the tribes historically had better nutrition than Europeans of their day

Sep 16, 2015
How did they determine the cell lines were virus-free?

It takes one-nine months for HIV antibody particles to appear in serum -- all the while viral nucleic acids (RNA) could be detected and increases in proteins that correspond with viral replication.


Luckily, there are protocols derived exactly for this reason.

http://www.dnavec...gy1.html
http://www.ploson...tion=PDF
http://www.ncbi.n...3726135/
http://www.ploson...tion=PDF
http://iovs.arvoj...=2359609

For comparison, it's big news when there's a lapse in QA in these situations:

http://www.the-sc...ll-Line/

JVK
Sep 16, 2015
BTW: the tribes historically had better nutrition than Europeans of their day


Virus in cattle linked to human breast cancer

http://medicalxpr...firstCmt

EAT MORE BUFFALO?

JVK
Sep 16, 2015
it's big news when there's a lapse in QA in these situations


It's no news for serious scientists when biologically uninformed science idiots make claims like this:

"...ribozymes have made an interesting niche for themselves in the field of abiogenesis. The evolution of a successful RNA polymerase ribozyme is a lofty goal. While its discovery would not be the be-all and end-all of abiogenesis research, it would represent an important stepping stone between prebiotic chemistry and life. The encapsulation of such a ribozyme is also an important step, as it would enable a system of heredity and evolution through natural selection. Based on progress in current research, it is only a matter of time before that ribozyme is discovered."

http://www.scribd...s#scribd

Sep 16, 2015
EAT MORE BUFFALO?


Side note- ever had buffalo? It's pretty darn good.

Your quote from my thesis is not relevant in this situation. Either address what I've posted or don't bother.

JVK
Sep 16, 2015
The encapsulation of such a ribozyme is also an important step, as it would enable a system of heredity and evolution through natural selection.


anonymous_9001 (aka Andrew Jones) "Your quote from my thesis is not relevant in this situation."

Did the smallpox virus wipe out huge numbers of native Americans before or after immigrants wiped out most of the Buffalo?

Your ridiculous claim about the the encapsulation of a ribozyme that would enable a system of heredity and evolution through natural selection cannot be linked to anything known about how ecological variation, which must be linked to ecological adaptation, occurs in the context of everything known about biophysically constrained nutrient-dependent protein folding and RNA-mediated DNA repair, which probably was perturbed by the change to beef-eating from buffalo-eating.

Your comments have never been relevant to any topic here because you are a biologically uninformed science idiot.

Sep 16, 2015

Did the smallpox virus wipe out huge numbers of native Americans before or after immigrants wiped out most of the Buffalo?

@Ignorant as arock JVK

Smallpox wiped out huge numbers of native Americans in areas were Buffalo didn't exist. In Massachusetts early colonists found entire villages wiped out. bodies decaying all around. As horrified as they were at what they found they took it as a sign that God had blessed them, clearing out the natives for their benefit. In truth the smallpox came from English fishermen trading with the natives.


JVK
Sep 16, 2015
Thanks. I'm glad I asked. Please tell me which version of history you decided to use in your claim: "the smallpox came from English fishermen trading with the natives."

I had become concerned that viruses, which are linked to all pathology, and viral illnesses, like smallpox, which killed many natives and influenza which killed many people of European descent, might have been prevented by nutrient-dependent pheromone-controlled ecological adaptations in the settlers but not in the natives and in populations in other parts of the world that were decimated by influenza.

Does your superior knowledge of history link anything to survivors compared to victims that could also be placed into the context of ridiculous theories about evolution via mutations and/or natural selection or anything else touted by other biologically uninformed science idiots?

Others might be more willing to learn from you if you would cite your sources.

Sep 16, 2015
I repeat: Either address what I've posted or don't bother.

influenza which killed many people of European descent, might have been prevented by nutrient-dependent pheromone-controlled ecological adaptations


During this flu season, what should I eat in order to induce changes in my DNA sequence that would make me and my offspring immune?


Sep 17, 2015
Massachusetts smallpox epidemic, 1633
http://www.fofweb...entData=

Smallpox epidemic ravages Native Americans on the northwest coast of North America in the 1770s.
http://www.histor..._Id=5100

Two regions without Buffalo.

The native Americans had no innate immunity to smallpox, unlike the Europeans. Nutrition had not a damn thing to do with the devastation among the native Americans.

JVK
Sep 17, 2015
Nutrition had not a damn thing to do with the devastation among the native Americans.


I asked: "Does your superior knowledge of history link anything to survivors compared to victims that could also be placed into the context of ridiculous theories about evolution via mutations and/or natural selection or anything else touted by other biologically uninformed science idiots?"

Nutrient-dependent/pheromone-controlled adaptive evolution: a model.
http://www.ncbi.n...24693353

See also: http://rna-mediat...thology/

Sep 17, 2015
Criticisms of the nutrient-dependent pheromone-controlled evolutionary model

http://www.ncbi.n...4049134/

Sep 17, 2015
"During the 1770s, smallpox killed at least 30% of the West Coast Native Americans.[51][52] The smallpox epidemic of 1780–1782 brought devastation and drastic depopulation among the Plains Indians.[53] This epidemic is a classic instance of European immunity and non-European vulnerability."
https://en.wikipe...smallpox

Notice that the last great smallpox epidemic was 50 years before hunting pressure began to impact buffalo herds.

Sep 17, 2015


I asked: "Does your superior knowledge of history link anything to survivors compared to victims that could also be placed into the context of ridiculous theories about evolution via mutations and/or natural selection or anything else touted by other biologically uninformed science idiots?"

Strawman argument and you know it is.


Sep 17, 2015
Virus in cattle linked to human breast cancer
@jk
are you trying to be stupid? historically, the N.Amer aboriginals ate buffalo, so why post about cattle? another distraction or are you trying for the sympathy vote?
(and N.AM. buffalo is far tastier than any other bovine i've eaten)
Did the smallpox virus wipe out ...?
@idiot boy, smallpox and other Euro virus started wiping out the tribes starting circa 1492 and spread with the inland invasions of the Euro's...
you are not only REACHING with the buffalo comment, but you obviously don't know SQUAT about history, either
(or your "interpretations" and literacy problems are once again showing their ugly head)
You have given NO EVIDENCE for your claims:

1- how does your comment in ANY way tie smallpox deaths of the Native Tribes to failed nutritional supplements?

2- as for the above article: how does your post relate to Gulf War Syndrome at all?

2Bcont'd

Sep 17, 2015
/rna-mediat...thology/
PSEUDOSCIENCE PHISHING SITE
if you can't link from a reputable peer reviewed source, you are pushing PSEUDOSCIENCE and RELIGION
reported
Others might be more willing to learn from you
people might be willing to learn SCIENCE if they weren't confused by your continual references to RELIGION or PSEUDOSCIENCE
I asked
and before you asked that, I ASKED:
1- how does your comment in ANY way tie smallpox deaths of the Native Tribes to failed nutritional supplements?

2- as for the above article: how does your post relate to Gulf War Syndrome at all?

you STILL HAVEN'T GIVEN ANY EVIDENCE supporting your stupidity

now, you state the Nat. AM. tribes died because buffalo were killed off?
what about the millions of tribes that were NOT DEPENDENT on buffalo?
what about the extinctions of tribes like, say, the Quapaw?
plus, you consider buffalo but don't consider that the typical hunts were usually only 2-3 times a year...

2Bcont'd

Sep 17, 2015
@jk cont'd
so how does the periodic ingestion of Buffalo hunted 2 times a year (typical) so heavily influence the nutritional situation?

you might have learned that if you actually did a smattering of research and didn't make ASSumptions based upon your religious doctrines about things you don't understand

ANON has a GREAT question, though!
ANSWER THIS
During this flu season, what should I eat in order to induce changes in my DNA sequence that would make me and my offspring immune?
ANSWER THAT QUESTION

then... ask yourself: why do you keep trying to get off the TOPIC THAT YOU STARTED?

is it because you have NO evidence and you KNOW IT?
or because you were just being stupid again? (mensa my *ss)

back to the topic YOU started
1- how does your comment in ANY way tie smallpox deaths of the Native Tribes to failed nutritional supplements?

2- as for the above article: how does your post relate to Gulf War Syndrome at all?

JVK
Sep 17, 2015
(and N.AM. buffalo is far tastier than any other bovine i've eaten)


Sarcasm alert:

Have you also eaten "bald eagle?" I've heard it "tastes like chicken" and also like "spotted owl." Perhaps both have mutated and evolved from dinosaurs during the past 65 million years.

JVK
Sep 17, 2015
ANON has a GREAT question, though!
ANSWER THIS

During this flu season, what should I eat in order to induce changes in my DNA sequence that would make me and my offspring immune?

ANSWER THAT QUESTION


Questions that are based on ignorance of biologically-based cause and effect that links nutrient-dependent RNA-mediated cell type differentiation via the physiology of reproduction in all living genera cannot be answered when they are framed in the pseudoscientific nonsense of evolutionary theory.

Search Results for 'viruses' http://rna-mediat...=viruses

Sep 17, 2015
/rna-mediat...=viruses
PSEUDOSCIENCE PHISHING SITE
you can't provide evidence from a reputable site so you link a religious one
reported
Sarcasm alert:
how come you never post "PSEUDOSCIENCE ALERT" before you start linking your private sites?
and to answer your post:
1- yes
2- no, they have different tastes
3- there is far more evidence for Evolution than your perfume: especially considering you have yet to be able to substantiate human pheromones to any credibility
see: http://rspb.royal...full.pdf

if you can't prove the basis for your perfume, what makes you think you can prove your religion?

also note: continuing to link pseudoscience sites as evidence only reinforces the fact that you have NO EVIDENCE

you also haven't been able to answer the questions: the two i continue to provide based upon your first post and claims and Anon's

why are you avoiding the questions?

JVK
Sep 17, 2015
why are you avoiding the questions?


Obviously, I am not. There are hundreds of links to accurate information in my posts here and on my blog sites, as well as at

https://www.faceb...Research

https://www.faceb...ookmarks

JVK
Sep 17, 2015
See also my comments on: http://medicalxpr...ell.html

Nutrient-dependent amino acid substitutions stabilize organized genomes during thermodynamic cycles of protein biosynthesis and degradation. The cycles are linked to beneficial effects of nutrients on organism-level thermoregulation and transgenerational epigenetic inheritance via the physiology of reproduction.

Sep 18, 2015
Obviously, I am not...
@jk
Obviously, YOU ARE avoiding answering!

lets be perfectly clear:
IF you wanted to answer the questions AND
IF you had legitimate evidence AND
IF you actually could produce valid scientific evidence: THEN
YOU WOULD have explained and linked your argument here on PO with the legitimate links which lead to reputable peer reviewed journals that contained validated info

HOWEVER, you are linking your personal sites! this means you are:
-PHISHING
-targeting certain people and seeking specific info about them
-leading people into PSEUDOSCIENCE because your personal sites also promote creationist religious dogma (that is NOT SCIENCE)
-proselytizing your religion seeking validation for your beliefs

you can't answer it here because you don't have the SCIENCE or the EVIDENCE

PS- facebook is NOT a reputable peer reviewed journal, neither is your perfume/rna site

reported for PSEUDOSCIENCE and PHISHING

JVK
Sep 18, 2015
YOU WOULD have explained and linked your argument here on PO with the legitimate links which lead to reputable peer reviewed journals that contained validated info


All claims of RNA-mediated biologically-based cause and effect (see: http://www.hawaii...on.html) have since been validated in my own subsequently published works and the works of other serious scientists.

Life history as a constraint on plasticity: developmental timing is correlated with phenotypic variation in birds http://dx.doi.org....2015.47

Many biologically uninformed science idiots refuse to accept the validations, and even some creationists are not yet willing to address all the facts. The difference is that creationists and intelligent researchers have continued to arm themselves with information in their attempts to combat evolution to fight disease. http://www.scienc...88.short

JVK
Sep 18, 2015
reported for PSEUDOSCIENCE and PHISHING


Why do you continue to make such ridiculous claims?

Do you think others are not capable of determining whether the content of my FB page or blog posts is somehow inappropriate to the advancement of science?

http://rna-mediated.com/
https://www.faceb...ediated/
See also: http://www.rnasociety.org/

JVK
Sep 18, 2015
During this flu season, what should I eat in order to induce changes in my DNA sequence that would make me and my offspring immune?


What kind of biologically uninformed science idiot asks a question like that more than a year after he criticized the only model of biophysically constrained ecological speciation that has ever been detailed, and after the model has since been repeatedly validated by other serious scientists?

See: http://www.psmag....es-64616

Excerpt: "This big something, this startlingly quick gene-expression response to the social world, is a phenomenon we are just beginning to understand. The recent explosion of interest in "epigenetics"—a term literally meaning "around the gene," and referring to anything that changes a gene's effect without changing the actual DNA sequence."

Sep 18, 2015
Why do you continue to make such ridiculous claims?
@jk
it is not ridiculous IF IT IS FACTUAL

the sites are owned and operated by you, thus you have the ability to snatch data from visitors, that is called PHISHING -so your site is a PHISHING SITE
(i've also visited the site anonymously and found corrupted bots and data from your site seeking personal info)

your sites also include creationist information and links to creationist sites as well as promotes creationist religious ideals, thus it is PSEUDOSCIENCE

it is pseudoscience because there is NO SCIENCE in creation religion: this is PROVEN here: https://en.wikipe...Arkansas

when you link those sites, i will warn EVERYONE that you are a PHISHING PSEUDOSCIENCE troll and report your sites as malicious

the only reason you are not facing other charges is because: you have "NADA" and therefore cannot actually pay off fines incurred or judgements against your site/you for libel/felonies

Sep 18, 2015
@jk cont'd
Do you think others are not capable of determining whether the content of my FB page or blog posts is somehow inappropriate to the advancement of science?
you do NOT PROMOTE SCIENCE if you promote creationist dogma
That is called PSEUDOSCIENCE
per the PO site:
Keep science: Include references to the published scientific literature to support your statements. Pseudoscience comments (including non-mainstream theories) will be deleted (see pseudoscience)
that link leads here: https://en.wikipe...oscience

make a note
Pseudoscience is a claim, belief or practice which is incorrectly presented as scientific, but does not adhere to a valid scientific method, cannot be reliably tested, or otherwise lacks scientific status
thus creationist religion is PSEUDOSCIENCE
see also:
https://en.wikipe...Arkansas

posting your site only promotes your RELIGION
NOT SCIENCE

Sep 18, 2015
@jk cont'd
also note that the site says
Avoid political and religious discussions: Because of the complexity and ambiguity of this subject matter, political and religious discussions are not allowed
so, continuing to post PSEUDOSCIENCE tied to religion, like creationism, is RELIGIOUS PROSELYTIZING and thus a purely political and religious discussion
so it is doubly violating the rules posting your private links that are NOT SCIENTIFIC

another point: your sites are NOT reputable, nor are they peer reviewed sources which show methodology nor demonstrate the scientific method, thus your sites are PSEUDOSCIENCE, which is also breaking the rules
Do not include links in signatures or links to irrelevant materials
this means by definition you are OT, thus
Stay on topic
is a rule violated as well

the ONLY REASON YOU CAN STILL POST HERE IS BECAUSE:
-the site is NOT moderated
-you are PROTECTED from deletion on the occasional attempts at moderation

Sep 18, 2015
@jk lastly:
the site says
Comments that will be deleted include:
spam
your posts are repetitious spam of personal BS/religion
promotion of services, publications or work unless it is relevant to the post
your personal site posts are promotion of you and RELIGION, thus not relevant
abusive, snarky, obscene, or just plain nasty remarks about anything or anyone
your posts are typically thus, as well as your posting of libel to other scientists/actual educated people and anyone who disagrees with you
off topic ramblings, rants, or pointless verbiage
the bulk of your posts
political and religious discussions
ALL of your posts
pseudoscience theories.
ALL of your posts

the only conclusion we can draw about why your posts still exist?
you're protected by someone and/or you pad the count which makes PO $$$$

any other moderated site would have perma-banned you by now

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