Noted authority says women now have higher IQ than men
July 18, 2012
by Bob Yirka
in Psychology & Psychiatry
The IQs of a large enough population are calculated so that they conform to a normal distribution with a mean of 100 and a standard deviation of 15. Image: Wikipedia.
(Medical Xpress) -- Psychologist James Flynn, who resides in New Zealand and is considered one of the foremost experts on intelligence testing, has aroused peoples attention around the world by proclaiming that women are now smarter than men, at least according to a standardized IQ test. Hes been making the rounds, speaking to various reporters in hopes of spurring sales of a new book hes written.
Flynn, who has been researching IQ level data covering the past century, says that most everyone in developed countries has been getting smarter over the years, about three points more on average; which is significant in itself of course. He points out that when IQ tests first came on the scene, women tended to score well below men, oftentimes as much as five points lower. Since that time however, women have been growing smarter at a faster rate than men and now average a point higher. He bases his assertions on the Raven's Progressive Matrices IQ test, which has been given to subjects ranging from ten years of age to thirty, though in this recent go round hes restricted his research to just those fifteen to eighteen years old, presumably the age at which full intelligence has developed, but prior to being degraded by environmental factors.
There is much debate surrounding just how accurate IQ tests are and whether they truly measure how smart a person is; after all, some research has found that some people can raise their scores if paid to do so. Typically, those who score high tend to believe in the results while those that dont suggest it doesnt measure street smarts or other forms of brilliance, such as those who excel in the arts. In any case, such tests are based on a score of 100 as signifying the average persons intelligence level.
Flynn tested 500 males and 500 females from a wide variety of so-called advanced countries such as Australia, New Zealand, South Africa and Argentina and found women scored a half to a whole point higher in all of them. The only exception was Israel, where men still scored a couple of points higher than women. And while he cant say for sure why women seem to be growing smarter than men, he theorizes that its likely due to the roles women now play in society, as compared to earlier times. Nowadays, he notes, women are expected to multi-task, to get jobs and go to work while still raising children. He believes that has caused womens brains to adjust, making them smarter.
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via ABC, The Australian.
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Jul 18, 2012
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2) The press release/story fails to mention which group had the highest scores and lowest. It just mentions the average.
Jul 18, 2012
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http://www.delibe....sml.pdf
Jul 18, 2012
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" so-called advanced countries such as Australia, New Zealand, South Africa and Argentina"
I wouldn't call South Africa "advanced" and Argentina is iffy.
http://en.wikiped...lity.png
http://en.wikiped..._Nations
Jul 18, 2012
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Street smarts is considered a form of brilliance?
Jul 18, 2012
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In all of those samples, women are the equal of men, perhaps scoring a half point or a point higher, Flynn said."
Not yet published?
Perhaps?
This "study" is even worse than the AGW ones.
Jul 18, 2012
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I noticed that the provided graph is apparently just an example and not specific to this study. If you do a search for "IQ graph" it's the first one that popped up for me.
Jul 18, 2012
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I knew they were not important to me getting a job - course now if i took one id be interested to see what my score is. Back then I didn't give a damn.
Mind you i equally hated science - then at about 19 i think it was i suddenly found science fascinating and now love the subject.
My point here is how many teenage boys took the test seriously enough to get an accurate mark to their IQ.. because its same for general exams boy just don't mature thus they don't try.
If we told boys: were doing this test to see if you really are smarter than girls i bet alot of them would suddenly do their best - when their ego's are on the line.
Jul 18, 2012
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Jul 18, 2012
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Those aren't available. From the ABC link in the article:
Jul 18, 2012
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Yup, that explains it. This guy brings trolling to a whole new level. He is not getting this information out to the world for the purpose of science, he is trying to get his sales up.
Jul 18, 2012
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I'm not a statistician but doubt so small a sample as n=1000 makes differences of VAR=5 (cited in the article above) significant.
Perhaps in preparation for reading Flynn's yet-to-be released book, one might read particularly Appendix 1 'Statistics for People Who Are Sure They Can't Learn Statistics' of The Bell Curve: Intelligence and Class Structure in American Life by Richard J. Herrnstein and Charles Murray (1994, The Free Press, NY, 0-02-914673-9). Flynn, James and Flynn, effect are mentioned on 12 pages.
On gender, Herrnstein and Murray say, p.275 boxed, 'Jews, Latinos, and Gender', "When it comes to gender, the consistent story has been that men and women have nearly identical mean IQs but that men have a broader distribution. [ ... ] The larger variation among men means that there are more men than women at either extreme of the IQ distribution."
Jul 18, 2012
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Now I suspect it's the site itself. This many comments, and not a single rating?? Must be that others have a problem, too??
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And the funniest thing: Once I had submitted this comment, the rating stars appeared for all the comments!!!!
I'd urge the Webmaster to take a look.
Jul 19, 2012
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Doug, you really need to revisit the concept of standard deviation.
"I'm not a statistician but doubt so small a sample as n=1000 makes differences of VAR=5 (cited in the article above) significant."
For a margin of error of 1 IQ at 95% certainty for a sample with a std dev of 15, you would need a minimum of 865 participants. So, a study with 1000 is valid.
Jul 19, 2012
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Make the sample 1 million (which can easily be done with education system setting up a small test at the start or end of the year.) And we might have a better picture.
Jul 21, 2012
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That's because he was probably autistic. At least the behaviour matches the description; autists aren't more intelligent than others - they just prefer structured and repetitive tasks due to their particular neurological problems, which means they do things like learn a phonebook or remember football stats, because they obsessively repeat the same things over and over again.
Jul 22, 2012
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Jul 22, 2012
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I have just usually been a bit uncomfortable with how IQ is used to evaluate people. In the world of some people, those of us with a high IQ might not fare very well. So, using IQ to determine capacity or fitness is only relative generally, not exclusively.
Jul 23, 2012
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PS We don't have direct access to our accounts here either.That sucks!
Jul 23, 2012
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I think no one is claiming IQ is the sole determining factor of a person's aptitude in all circumstances (least of all those who do studies on IQ). It sometimes may seem that way because as humans we're so damned proud of being the 'only intelligent species' and that 'evolution supposedly goes in the direction of more intelligence' (implicitly stating that we are the 'crown' of evolution).
But seriously: Dinosaurs managed to be around orders of magnitude longer than us without developing significant intelligence.
Intelligence is one (of many) niches like speed or strength or claws or much offspring. It's not the best or the one that is worth most.
Just one of many.