Skin color matters when it comes to Canadians' health: study

A new University of British Columbia study finds that Black Canadians with darker skin are more likely to report poorer health than Black Canadians with lighter skin. The study also suggests that a mismatched racial identity can negatively affect health.

The study, published online in the current issue of & Medicine journal, provides the first Canadian evidence of the health effects of "colourism," discrimination targeted more strongly at darker-skinned than lighter-skinned people of colour, says the author.

Researchers surveyed the self-reported racial identities -- Asian, , South Asian and White -- of nearly 1,500 participants from Vancouver and Toronto across four key health indicators: high blood pressure, depression, and overall health.

While some findings support existing research -- that Black Canadians are more likely than others to report high blood pressure and that Asian Canadians are most likely to report poorer mental health -- the study found that Black Canadians with darker skin were as much as four times more likely than Black Canadians with lighter skin to report poor overall health.

Although U.S. scholars have researched the wide-ranging effects of colourism for African Americans, including effects on health, the UBC study's author Prof. Gerry Veenstra, Dept. of Sociology, says this is the first study to suggest that colourism can affect the health of Canadians as well.

"The findings indicate that, for Black Canadians, levels of discrimination can depend on the relative darkness or lightness of their skin," says Veenstra. "For health researchers and policymakers, this means that the broad racial classifications typically used by health researchers may actually underestimate the magnitude of racial health inequalities in this country."

"This is a first step to understanding colourism's manifestations in Canada and the degree to which and for whom it affects health and well-being," adds Veenstra, who plans to study whether colourism affects other Canadian racial identities.

The study also finds that mistaking an individual's can have significant negative physical or mental impacts. Participants who reported higher levels of racial identity mismatches were found to be at greater risk of high blood pressure, poorer self-rated mental health and poorer self-rated overall health.

"For instance, people who considered themselves to be White but believed others tend to think they are something else -- perhaps that they were of mixed race, for example -- were at a higher risk of high and poor mental health," Veenstra says.

While the study did not investigate the causes of this phenomenon, Veenstra says previous studies have suggested that people experience stress when the cues provided by others do not match their conceptions of themselves, a stress that can be strong enough to elicit adverse health outcomes.

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gwrede
1 / 5 (2) Oct 12, 2011
That discrimination against African Americans seems to vary with skin tone, is IMHO an indicator of a subconscious origin of discrimination. If there weren't such variation, then one could say that discrimination stems from a conscious decision to 'discriminate "blacks"'.

I don't think anybody thinks that "I'll give this guy a harder time than that other guy because he is darker brown." So it has to be subconscious.

Now, if this is true, then those who plan what should be done against discrimination may have to study this further than merely blaming others and showing righteous indignation.
ArtflDgr
1.7 / 5 (6) Oct 12, 2011
how about sub sahara africans score lower on IQ, and those who score lower on IQ also take care of themselves less, and go to the doctor less, and are less able to understand treatment regimens?

oh.. yeah... we are to ignore the report that evolution in humans is still going, and pretend that every group tests out equally, and that the only reason they dont have equal outcomes as the great prophet of the 1850s marx said, is that evil racism

unless someone is flaming the fans of it, and describing that someones is being cheated as the germans said of the scapegoats to anger common germans to action, or the northern progressives did in ny when the draft riots occured...

we tend not to be racist...
ny has more than 800 different countries represented... every race and language possible... and 8 million people.... hundreds and hundreds of thousands interact...

shame the same ideas the nazis used to create scapegoats is still alive and well... and the practicers are ignorant of it
ArtflDgr
2.1 / 5 (7) Oct 12, 2011
if you dont believe me, read about landry parish and the progressive democrats in the south during hayes tilden

read about the draft riots... and ignore the cleaned and scrubbed gangs of ny... they left out the part of the rioters lynching africans... after first attempting to lynch wealthy republicans...

it really got going once someone lit off a howitzer cannon on second avenue and accidently killed a woman and child..

notice thats our statistics for such things start AFTER, as they dont want you to know the progressive white man union,a nd the longshoremans unions, and such were behind the murderous rampage against the radical republicans and africans in ny...

very sad that most dont know this history at all, and side with the side behind it that STILL is playing similar games...

you would think that phd academics woudl be a bit more smart and knwo more... rather than just pretend and be full of smug superiority...
Vendicar_Decarian
2.1 / 5 (7) Oct 12, 2011
I can't think of anything more deserving of a Lynching than a Republican and Libertarians.

They are the scum of the earth.

FrankHerbert
1.9 / 5 (14) Oct 12, 2011
LOL, only the notorious stamp counterfeiter, George Kopecky, would give ArtflDgr 5's for his racist insanity. I hope the feds get you someday you slimeball.
FrankHerbret
1.9 / 5 (13) Oct 12, 2011
Sorry for the above comment, I was really just trolling.
ArtflDgr
2 / 5 (8) Oct 13, 2011
FrankHerbert... your ignorant..

i am not racist... i am in a mixed relationship dummy..

why dont we let the university of chicago edumacate you
www.press.uchicag...749.html

Near the docks, tensions that had been brewing since the mid-1850s between white longshoremen and black workers boiled over. As recently as March of 1863, white employers had hired blacks as longshoremen, with whom Irish men refused to work. An Irish mob then attacked two hundred blacks who were working on the docks, while other rioters went into the streets in search of "all the negro porters, cartmen and laborers . . . they could find." They were routed by the police. But in July 1863, white longshoremen took advantage of the chaos of the Draft Riots to attempt to remove all evidence of a black and interracial social life from area near the docks.

i am racist for knowing the history?

and your not racist for being ignorant and NOT wanting to help people have a better life?
ArtflDgr
2.3 / 5 (9) Oct 13, 2011
and mr ignorant, and judgemental tolerant, FrankHerbert
UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA
THE DISPUTED PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION OF 1876
www.archive.org/s...djvu.txt

Failing to entice him out, they had broken
in (the door, had seized him, and had sworn that if
he voted the Republican ticket he would have "to vote
it in hell." When the woman had attempted to inter
fere, she had been knocked down. The ruffians had
then gagged the man; had gashed him with knives,
making a sound "just like cutting in new leather ;"
had then dragged him outside; and had there shot
him seven times. Some of them had then re-entered
the cabin ; had killed a baby which the woman held in
her arms ; had assaulted the woman several times ;
and had then shot her, cut her, gashed her with an
axe, and left her for dead. In proof of her story she
exhibited her wounds, which were still unhealed.

Thats the southern progressive democrats of the 1800s

ryggesogn2
2.3 / 5 (9) Oct 13, 2011
Does this mean all people are not equal?
I wonder how anti-discrimination laws affect medical research?
Acknowledging individual differences is a first step towards a tolerant society.
ArtflDgr
2 / 5 (8) Oct 13, 2011
and just to be clear..its not the FACTS that is the problem its the conclusions ignorant people make and abuse the facts that are the problem

ignoring that a person has a lower iq, may make for great marxist misery and an opportunity for manipulation..

but it doenst help that person at all. it denies them the help they need, the added time that may be needed to understand, the compassion, the tolerance, the ability to be respected for who they are... rather than hurt because we pretend they are something else.

how would you feel if you were the only person in a room of decades experienced musicians and can barely play, but they all pretend that your as good as they are... and some odd clique then declares that all these better musicians are racists!!! becuase they play better...

I work for a reserch hospital in the library, so i read the studies that you pretend dont exist to the detriment of SOME africans who could use the help!!!!!!!!!!!!

do the research then help
ArtflDgr
1.7 / 5 (6) Oct 13, 2011
Acknowledging individual differences is a first step towards a tolerant society

its also the first step to see a person, not a cog you can replace like a fuse in a box...

its the first thing you do if you want to help them too, as the help has to be tailored to needs of that person...

one size fits all dont fit...
Vendicar_Decarian
2.3 / 5 (6) Oct 14, 2011
"Does this mean all people are not equal?" - RyggTard

Well, according to America's founding fathers, a black man was only 2/3rds of a person, but equal in every part of those two thirds.

Sad isn't it that American's are taught that these same men were the fathers of Libertarian style Liberty.

Vendicar_Decarian
3 / 5 (4) Oct 14, 2011
"Acknowledging individual differences is a first step towards a tolerant society." - RyggTard

Well, according to your Libertarian Brothers Hernstein and Murray authors of "The Bell Curve" a book heavily pushed by the Libertarian movement and organizations like the Heritage Foundation... Blacks are intellectually inferior to whites, and whites intellectually inferior to Asians.

ArtflDgr
1.7 / 5 (6) Oct 14, 2011
no, they are not INFERIOR...
you see.. as i said, the problems are not with the facts, the problems are with the conclusions...

and you sir think that someone who is not as smart is inferior...

your the judgmental one who looks down on people and so believes one has to hide the facts so people dont think LIKE YOU DO...

meanwhie... how are things going in the black community since we cant help them? and we cant... what justification to help them is there when there is no problem?

people who are not as smart as you are not inferior...
got that?
and people who are smarter than you are not superior...
got that?

so blacks are not inferior in the tautological sense your playing with to incite hate...

how are they inferior?
I thought the proletariat was special? how can the proletariat be special if the people who think they are the tops look down on their inferiors?

ArtflDgr
2 / 5 (8) Oct 14, 2011
hitler saw jews as inferior
neo liberals see whites as inferior
stalin lenin, mao, saw the LUMPEN proletariat of 100 million they starved and tortured to death...

collectivists see all humans as inferior..
and you have that mindset.

how do i know?

your willing to step up and help the next genocide, your a camp guard, a nazi to the core... and you expressed in your post...

you want the inferiors exterminated, but you are multicultural, so you have a quandry... how can you justify some inferiors be exterminated and not others?

so you endevor to move the others in your mind outside that zone... but you get upset when the world expreses the facts. so you endeavor to hide them... THEN all you have left is manufacturing class hatred to expalin it.

the jews were 14% of the population of germany, and hitler gave the same argument you did to initiate extermination, that they were equal, so they must be cheating.

i know, my family was there, and we remember those like you!!!
ArtflDgr
1.7 / 5 (6) Oct 14, 2011
people that graduate last in class are not inferior to those who graduate first...

the real world doesnt work like that, only high school and academia do, where intelligence gets you something. outside that, intelligence is overrated as the most successful are nto the most smart!!!!!!!!!!!! moderately smarter is much more successful... (otherwise researchers in academia would be richer)

wake up to the idea that some political poistions are toxic advice masquerading as an option..

stop putting people into little boxes...

otherwise, people like temple grandin, and me who has aspergers and otehrs have no place at the table because idiots like you sat there first and said, no inferiors, then set about to justify who is and isnt... and willing to use force, and all that to beat up anyone who says otherwise, while also claiming some high road...

stephen hawking is inferior in your book.. no?
i dont look at people that way

ArtflDgr
2 / 5 (8) Oct 14, 2011
I also know that if i ignore the condition, i cant cure or mitigate it.

a festering foot does not cure itself
and a salve on the head does not fix a sprained ankle

for some reason you think that to pretend that people dont score differently along arbitrary group lines is a form of racism... who taught you that? socialists? communists? individualists who respect the whole not focused on the parts? why would they do that? oh, so you have class hatred towards anyone not willing to bend their mind to the force that tells them how to think.

seems to me you have the mentality your pretending to fight against!

I went to bronx science, but dont think that justifies my judging others by the measure i happen to stand tall on.

i dont really think that doing that is honest nor is it valid... it would be like a black man thinking black men are better.. or a white thinking so, or a phd doing so.

how is that the moral high ground?
oh, they told you - and so you attack reason
ryggesogn2
2.3 / 5 (9) Oct 14, 2011
It's amusing that the 'libearals' are demanding that conservatives compromise their principles to pass more socialist policies.
VD accuses those who founded the USA of being racist for compromising in the Constitution counting slaves as 2/3 of a person for House representation. This compromise was made so the USA would exist and it limited the influence of the slave states in Congress. Had slaves been counted as 1 person, slave states would have more members in Congress to promote their slave state interests.
So 'compromise' is great when the 'liberals' what conservatives to compromise their values, but that is exactly what conservatives did over 200 years ago to create the USA.
Message from VD and the 'liberals', NEVER compromise principles.
ArtflDgr
1.8 / 5 (5) Oct 14, 2011
I also know that if i ignore the condition, i cant cure or mitigate it.

a festering foot does not cure itself
and a salve on the head does not fix a sprained ankle

for some reason you think that to pretend that people dont score differently along arbitrary group lines is a form of racism... who taught you that? socialists? communists? individualists who respect the whole not focused on the parts? why would they do that? oh, so you have class hatred towards anyone not willing to bend their mind to the force that tells them how to think.

seems to me you have the mentality your pretending to fight against!

I went to bronx science, but dont think that justifies my judging others by the measure i happen to stand tall on.

i dont really think that doing that is honest nor is it valid... it would be like a black man thinking black men are better.. or a white thinking so, or a phd doing so.

how is that the moral high ground?
oh, they told you - and so you attack reason
ArtflDgr
1.8 / 5 (5) Oct 14, 2011
VD, your comment was refuted years ago in a 16 page speech by the ex-slave in scotland.

the slaves name? Frederick Douglass...
have you heard of him?

he did a complete refutation of your point, a point that the progressives keep giving you the BIG LIE

but are too ignorant to know that. heck, your too ignorant to have ever read the words of someone you think is inferior, like a slave...

can you accept that a person you call inferior (a repubican) as Frederick Douglass was better than you?

how about reading what those slaves wrote...
they definitely were NOT inferior...

but most couldnt juggle the formuleas of einstein... or even play music... like scott joplin... of course in your head you need a 160 iq to play such heavenly new music as joplin!!!

the 12th street rag was not written by an inferior, but by your superior.. and THAT is why you want to hurt them by pretending to help.

Grey's Law
Any sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice!!!
FrankHerbert
2.3 / 5 (10) Oct 14, 2011
You're totally incoherent ArtflDgr. You claim Africans have low IQs and can't take care of themselves BECAUSE OF their race, without providing evidence, but insist you aren't claiming they are inferior. Sorry, that is inferior. I'm not saying they are those things though. You are.

The only point I can see among your bullshit I will paraphrase thusly: "Blacks are inherently inferior but you can't call me on that because I pay lip service to individual black people like Douglass and Joplin."

Yeah, you might as well have said "but I have black friends." Oh you didn't do just that, you said you're in a mixed relationship! I guess you have trump.

(I bet your relationship is not with a low-IQ sub-Saharan African that can't take care of herself ;-) )
ryggesogn2
2.1 / 5 (7) Oct 14, 2011
You claim Africans have low IQs and can't take care of themselves BECAUSE OF their race,

Where is that stated?
It seems to me Artie said no such thing.
DarkWingDuck
3.4 / 5 (5) Oct 14, 2011
The darker the skin the less vitamin D, a important prohormone, is produced. Vitamin supplements are important for darker skin people in areas where sun exposure is more limited. One measurement of the levels may or may not reflect long term issues.

The response of the body to a dficiency could easily be to attempt an increase the precursor of vitamin D causing a larger appetite for cholesterol containing foods as cholesterol is a precursor to vitamin D. Vitamin D is in fact key in calcium and bone metabolism which is directly related to high blood pressure from calcium deficiencies. It's also linked to diabetes and estrogen production. For women, this could lead to disorders associated with low estrogen and for men... Increased aggression, poor mental health, erectile disfuncion, bone loss, etc.

Unfornately, not many doctors are good at putting things together.
sstritt
5 / 5 (2) Oct 15, 2011
@darkwingduck
After reading all of the above ranting, glad to see you and I had the same exact thoughts. Dark skinned people living in high latitudes are particularly vulnerable. I'm sure the authors of this study did not take it into account.
ArtflDgr
1.8 / 5 (5) Oct 17, 2011
ou claim Africans have low IQs and can't take care of themselves BECAUSE OF their race, without providing evidence, but insist you aren't claiming they are inferior.

i did NOT!!!

the AND does not get automatically inserted upon the first sentence... got that? as a group, they score lower... period. if you want proof, i can give you proof, but then you will waste my time saying it isnt... or that its skewed.

meanwhile 40 years of help has them where?

and if you compare the chinese coolies with the african outcomes... guess what? the darling of the left turned out not to need them and now are hated... report in the news today has whites moving away from chinese neigborhoods as they are not doing as well, and so self segregate.

so chinese are smarter than whites (the smartest group being askenazie jews), and whites self segregate in australia to stand apart rather than be on the bottom of that set

you dont see me saying the chinese are oppressing as a way not to face the facts
ArtflDgr
1.8 / 5 (5) Oct 17, 2011
if you go back to what i ACTUALLY SAID..
not what you delusionally inserted and then claimed my delusion...

in fact, there is several parts where i explain that only in your tiny mind is it inferior...

i have a VERY high iq... Bronx science AVERAGE IQ is 145..
Ergo more nobel prizes than any other and more than all colleges... its a HIGH SCHOOL with SEVEN nobels...

but guess what?

a VAST majority, according to statisitics, make a whole lot more money than me, do better in their life than me, have more social interations and so on...

so HOW is my higher IQ make one superior?

it DOESNT... GOT THAT?

it means i do different things...
but all it takes is one glance to see that no one loves the smart, they dont get the rewards, the girl, the money... easy life, etc..

SO WHATS THE FREAKING BIG DEAL?

well as a group a group with them will do better!
so the society with einstein did better than without

THEY dont do better, you do better having them!!!!!!!!!!

Who_Wants_to_Know
5 / 5 (2) Oct 19, 2011
Have these researchers never heard of Vitamin D, and bothered to consider that people with darker skin require far more sunlight - at levels difficult if not impossible to achieve, in order to produce sufficient levels? Low levels have been linked to almost all of the conditions they're noting. It may have everything to do with physiology, and very little to do with sociology.

But perhaps this is just another prime example of why sociology is a very 'soft' science.

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