There is no 'gay gene,' major study concludes

There is no 'Gay gene,' major study concludes
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There's no such thing as a single "gay gene" that drives a person's sexual behavior, concludes the largest genetic study ever conducted on the issue.

Instead, a person's attraction to those of the same sex is shaped by a complex mix of genetic and , similar to what's seen in most other , researchers report.

"This is a natural and normal part of variation in our species," said researcher Ben Neale, director of genetics with the Stanley Center for Psychiatric Research at the Broad Institute of MIT and Harvard. "That should also support the position that we shouldn't try and develop gay cures. That's not in anyone's interest."

The international study focused on the genetic profiles of nearly 480,000 people from the United States and the United Kingdom, a group approximately 100 times larger than any previous study of the link between genetics and same-sex attraction, said lead researcher Andrea Ganna, a research fellow with the Massachusetts General Hospital's Analytical and Translational Genetic Unit.

The research team discovered five specific genetic variants that were significantly associated with same-sex behavior, but when combined these variants explained less than 1% of any person's attraction to their own gender, Ganna said.

Overall, genetics account for between 8% and 25% of a person's same-sex attraction, taking into account the thousands of genetic traits ultimately involved in shaping a person's sexual desires, Neale said.

This animation describes the overall results of the study. It depicts the concept of heritability and the relationships between genes and environment. Credit: Francesca Cattaneo, Miriam Palopoli, Alessandro Nepote Vesin, Andrea Ganna

"It's effectively impossible to predict an individual's sexual behavior from their genome," Neale said. "Genetics is less than half of this story for sexual behavior, but it's still a very important contributing factor. These findings reinforce the importance of diversity as a key aspect of sexual behavior."

GLAAD, the world's largest LGBTQ advocacy group, said the results show that sexual orientation is just another normal piece of the human experience.

"This new study provides even more evidence that that being gay or lesbian is a natural part of human life, a conclusion that has been drawn by researchers and scientists time and again," said GLAAD Chief Programs Officer Zeke Stokes. "The identities of LGBTQ people are not up for debate. This new research also reconfirms the long-established understanding that there is no conclusive degree to which nature or nurture influence how a gay or lesbian person behaves."

The results also call into question the Kinsey Scale, a long-utilized rating scale of sexual attraction developed in part by sex researcher Alfred Kinsey, Ganna said.

"We discovered that the Kinsey Scale, which really places individuals on a continuum from basically exclusively opposite-sex partners to exclusively same-sex partners, is really an oversimplification of the diversity of sexual behavior in humans," Ganna said.

"That can't be a single line," Neale added. "The results are not consistent with that being a single line, but they don't actually tell us what those other dimensions are" that shape human desire.

Researchers are now considering whether a person's attraction to men and to women should be considered separate from each other, with the two characteristics shaping the person's overall sexual identity and desires, Ganna said.

The findings were published Aug. 29 in the journal Science.

The results did show that genetic variation has a stronger influence on same-sex sexual behavior in men than in women, possibly demonstrating the complexity of women's sexuality, said Melinda Mills, a professor of sociology at Oxford University who wrote an editorial accompanying the new study.

"This reflects voices from the LGBTQ+ (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer+) community arguing that a range of sexualities exist," Mills wrote. "Sexuality is dynamic, with the ability to express and realize sexual preferences, and is thus also shaped and regulated by cultural, political, social, legal and religious structures."

The five specific genes related to same-sex desire cropped up in odd places, the researchers noted.

For example, one was located in a stretch of DNA that contains several genes related to the sense of smell, Ganna said.

"We know that smell has a strong tie to sexual attraction, but its links to sexual behaviors are not clear," he said.

Another gene was associated with male baldness, which is closely linked to how the body regulates sex hormones and might suggest a relationship between hormone regulation and same-sex desire, Ganna said.

Despite their overall small effect, "these genetic variants could hint at some biological pathways that may be involved in same-sex ," Ganna said.


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Aug 29, 2019
Does this remove the "I was born this way" meme?

Aug 29, 2019
They were still born that way, with a brain that desired a sexual state that felt enjoyable to them. Were you born an asshole? Probably.

Aug 29, 2019
They were still born that way, with a brain that desired a sexual state that felt enjoyable to them. Were you born an asshole? Probably.

LOL, I guess I should have qualified my question with a (sarc)...
I was born WITH an asshole, but being one is dependent on my own brains structurally inherent capacity to assemble a lifetimes worth of cultural input... ;-)...
So, in summation, I was born a human.
You should try NOT being one by playing as a politically correct SJW...
But, I suppose you were "born that way"...

Aug 29, 2019
No. They were NOT born that way. Homosexuality and lesbianism are learned conditions where one of both parents had favoured having a child of the opposite sex and treat their child according to the parent's preference. One parent that I have seen in action wanted a daughter, and so she encourages her young son to go into the ladies' restroom rather than the mens' restroom. In this case, it is the mother who is attempting to turn her son into a homosexual, possibly without realising it.
There are only TWO genders, male and female. The female is equipped by Nature with a uterus, ovaries, vulva and vagina; while the male is equipped by Nature with a penis and testes. These organs are meant for REPRODUCTION; while any feelings of pleasure are the result of stimulation of nerve endings. The rectal orifice is not meant for sex, but only for elimination of waste products.
It is the human proclivity of experimentation that drives them to try something new for the sake of pleasuring.

Aug 29, 2019
The article has input from the GLAAD folks who obviously are encouraging more young people to BE homosexual and lesbian to increase their numbers, and therefore gain more political and social clout. And the Psychiatric community goes along with it; basically agreeing that homosexuality and lesbianism and transgenderism is 'oh so wonderful it is', and all must be supported by those who are not in those categories, else be looked upon and considered as biased, homophobic, mean and rotten straight white guys and gals.

Which means that the Psychiatric fields have come down to kowtowing toward the abnormal and UNNATURAL amongst the normal and natural, with the great new pretense that such have become just as normal and natural as those who use their "gifts" in normal and natural ways, as intended.
Which is why such as Milo Yiannopoulous is fully agreeable to Pederasty (men and boys) but against Paedophilia, which is mostly men and young girls.

Aug 29, 2019
@egg,
That is a captivating fiction. Will you turn it into a fantasy novel?

Aug 29, 2019
There is nothing fictional or fantastical about the Natural Order. Why would you think it was?

Aug 29, 2019
There is nothing fictional or fantastical about the Natural Order. Why would you think it was?


https://en.wikipe..._fallacy

Aug 29, 2019
In the real world, we just call it a perversion.

(And no, I'm not "homophobic"...).

Aug 29, 2019
This study did not rule out epigenetic factors, which always seemed more possible than a gay gene. Unlike genetic mutations, epigenetic changes are much more common, and often occur during an individual's lifetime. A gay gene, if one occurred, would have been heavily selected out of the gene pool, since reproduction involves a male and a female. A "gay epigenetic change", if it exists, would happen more frequently and probably be caused by some environmental factor. Epigenetic changes are often inheritable, and could last for generations although they would tend be selected out of the gene pool as would a "gay gene".


Aug 29, 2019
It happens in the womb! Hormone imbalance and timing, i.e. essential development! Or is it necessary or sufficient for modern humans?

Aug 29, 2019
Gaydom is an epigenetic response of the mother to perceived overpopulation within the tribe. The most significant result of gaydom is the reduced ability to reproduce.

From the article
"a complex mix of genetic and environmental influences, similar to what's seen in most other human traits

From the NIH re epigenetics
"...taking into consideration the genetic pool and environmental stimuli. This need is evident in complex processes such as the development of cell types, tissues, or complete organisms. On the other hand, epigenetics itself is complex and undergoes radical changes throughout an individual's lifetime, beginning with zygote formation and gamete production."

Gaydom is only abnormal in the respect that chronic overpopulation is abnormal. There are precursors throughout the animal world.

Gays can still contribute to tribal defense and support. And when necessary to replenish numbers lost in battle or catastrophe, gays can and will reproduce heterosexually. Willingly.

Aug 29, 2019
""This new study provides even more evidence that that being gay or lesbian is a natural part of human life"

-But this in no way explains WHY. Every behavior has a reason. Sometimes this reason is pathology such as the sickness of psychopaths and role-playing freaks like SEU.

But tribalism and overpoplation are undeniable FACTS. Overpop endangers the tribe. The animal kingdom is rife with ways of regulating growth, and so we should expect to find them within our species as well.

Anorexia nervosa for instance returns the body to a pseudo-prepubescent state. Post-partum depression is often the cause of infanticide. ANY behavior or condition that directly reduces growth is suspect.

Another clue - modern religions are designed specifically to maximize the birthrate, to negate the perception of overpop. Believers perceive their tribe surrounded by the enemy. and the need then becomes the desire to outgrow and overwhelm the enemy at any cost.

Aug 29, 2019
""This new study provides even more evidence that that being gay or lesbian is a natural part of human life"

-But this in no way explains WHY. Every behavior has a reason. Sometimes this reason is pathology such as the sickness of psychopaths and role-playing freaks like SEU.

But tribalism and overpoplation are undeniable FACTS. Overpop endangers the tribe. The animal kingdom is rife with ways of regulating growth, and so we should expect to find them within our species as well.

Anorexia nervosa for instance returns the body to a pseudo-prepubescent state. Post-partum depression is often the cause of infanticide. ANY behavior or condition that directly reduces growth is suspect.

Another clue - modern religions are designed specifically to maximize the birthrate, to negate the perception of overpop. Believers perceive their tribe surrounded by the enemy, and the need then becomes the desire to outgrow and overwhelm the enemy at any cost.

Aug 29, 2019
Oh the narrowmindedness of the quoted psychiatric director. "we shouldn't try and develop gay cures. That's not in anyone's interest."

This is part of the whole left-wing liberal block in the western world to call that which is unnatural natural, call the abnormal normal, and call evil good. Repeat it enough times and people will believe you. Sad!

Aug 30, 2019
The title says "There is no 'gay gene,'", and the text says "There's no such thing as a single 'gay gene'".

The quality of physorg is going down. Dennis Thompson should take some remedial English classes.

Aug 30, 2019
I can think of two gay Genes: Gene Davis and Gene Curtis Harrington

Aug 30, 2019
Oh the narrowmindedness of the quoted psychiatric director. "we shouldn't try and develop gay cures. That's not in anyone's interest."

This is part of the whole left-wing liberal block in the western world to call that which is unnatural natural, call the abnormal normal, and call evil good. Repeat it enough times and people will believe you. Sad!
says Bart_A

While it is true that the left-wing Liberal/Socialists, particularly in the US have a willingness to accommodate the needs of the homosexual community, the worst of it is that young children have been, and are indoctrinated by Liberal/Socialist teachers and professors into believing that homosexuality is perfectly normal and natural and people of that persuasion must be shown as much love and respect as any other; where going out of one's way to show more compassion to the homos because of their differences is the height of caring and concern. And anyone who doesn't show it should be shunned and vilified.

Aug 30, 2019
It is a very well-staged and promoted behaviour by the Psychiatric community to gain the confidence of gays, lesbians and trannies who may feel insecure and threatened by straight people. Psychiatrists understand that the homos require the support and passionate empathy of the straight male and female to complete the homosexual's feelings about him or herself. Basically, the Psychiatric community members are lying to homosexuals to prevent, in so many ways, the suicidal thoughts that many homosexuals undergo. In order to help the homos, young schoolchildren have to be taught that the sin of pederasty is normal and natural and should never be condemned or thought of as hurtful to the innocent children. In some cases, the kids are told to not tell their parents what they are being taught at school regarding homosexuality. The Boy Scouts of America have only recently admitted that they maintain a list of homosexual scout leaders, most of which indulge in pederasty with young boys.

Aug 30, 2019
Many Americans (and Europeans) don't know the differences between paedophilia and pederasty. Many have never heard of pederasty, but only the sexual activity between a man and a young girl or teen. So that when they had heard of Catholic priests sexually assaulting boys, most thought that they were talking about paedophilia instead of pederasty. That is why a man like Milo Yianopoulos, who is supposedly a Conservative, could go about indulging in pederasty with boys, just as long as he was completely against paedophila and let everybody know it. He presumed that he had every right to *uc* young boys and teenage boys and was safe from the public's ire. He is no longer an editor at Breitbart.
But neither the Psychiatric community nor the Liberal/Socialists fought to help Milo keep his job with Breitbart, only because he is (allegedly) a Conservative. If he had been a Liberal/Socialist, they would have done everything possible to help him keep his job. Which shows how biased the Left is.

Aug 30, 2019
There is nothing fictional or fantastical about the Natural Order. Why would you think it was?


https://en.wikipe..._fallacy
says Eikka

Perhaps you missed this part from your link: "However, unlike Hume's view of the is–ought problem, Moore (and other proponents of ethical non-naturalism) did not consider the naturalistic fallacy to be at odds with moral realism."

Morality wins.

Aug 30, 2019
SEU, dirty games saying that pederasty is somehow accepted among LGBT people. They just let people be how they want to be but they do obey the laws regarding age of consent.

Personally, I think all forms of sexuality are "normal" and should not be judged as long as all parties agree to the sexual intercourse and everybody is old enough to really understand what they are doing. There is homosexuality in nature and it is known to be common already in ancient times.

Aug 30, 2019
This is part of the whole left-wing liberal block in the western world to call that which is unnatural natural, call the abnormal normal, and call evil good
Bart should temper his opinions of good and evil with the fact that

"most surveys (which, due to the sensitivity of the subject, admiittedly suffer from limited samples and other design issues) find between 15 percent and 50 percent of U.S. priests are gay, which is much greater than the 3.8 percent of people who identify as LGBTQ in the general population."

-And he should consider the icons themselves... jesus the soft spoken, long haired love guru traveling the countryside with his all-male entourage, the token harlot, and his mum... the only woman ever to have given birth without being sullied by the touch of a man... and then wonder if these icons were created BY gays to lure this problematic subset out of the general pop and into a subculture where they could practice their lifestyle unmolested, so to speak.

Aug 30, 2019
Bart should also ask himself if the tradition of celibacy wasn't enacted solely to free gay priests from the bother of having to maintain sham marriages.

Of course gays make the best priests and nuns. Who else would guard church secrets with the same vigor as they would their troublesome lifestyles? Band of brothers, soul sisters, vestal virgins, athena cults, castrati... the traditions existed long before xianity reared its ugly head.

A ready-made tribe.

Aug 31, 2019
SEU, dirty games saying that pederasty is somehow accepted among LGBT people. They just let people be how they want to be but they do obey the laws regarding age of consent.

Personally, I think all forms of sexuality are "normal" and should not be judged as long as all parties agree to the sexual intercourse and everybody is old enough to really understand what they are doing. There is homosexuality in nature and it is known to be common already in ancient times.
says Cortezz

You are entitled to believe whatever moves you, of course. But the truth is that the sin of pederasty is fully accepted by the homosexual community, but not Paedophilia. 17 year olds are still regarded as children in most civilised societies. Therefore, homosexual men who want to have sex with a child who is younger than 18 are guilty of pederasty and should be arrested for contributing to the immorality and delinquency of a minor.
All forms of sexuality are simply stimulation of nerve endings.

Aug 31, 2019
-contd-
Without that stimulation of the nerve endings during pre- and post- sexual intercourse, there would be no pleasure derived from the acts, and therefore no desire for sexual acts whatsoever. It is the pleasurable feelings that motivate that desire. The original reason for sexual acts IN THE BEGINNING was for procreation and bearing the next generation of humans. Animals also desire those feelings of pleasure, which is why skin and other parts of the body is sensitive to touch.
Homosexuality may occur in some animals, but that is the result of confusion as to gender identification. This is also true of transgenderism in humans.
But you don't have to worry, Cortezz. Nobody, or very few, are trying to change homosexuals and their sexual lifestyles to become straight humans. Every human has the freedom to be what they want to be and do what they want to do.
There are many consequences, of course. While it may not seem fair to YOU, nevertheless it is the Law of Natural Order.

Aug 31, 2019
Deviant thumbsucker opines
The original reason for sexual acts IN THE BEGINNING was for procreation and bearing the next generation of humans...
...but of course nowadays humans no longer use sexual intercourse to make babies. They have amazon prime, and storks, and test tubes, and such. And sperm banks of the stars.

Come on, say something STUPIDER than that. I DARE you.

You freak.

Aug 31, 2019
Ok this is close...
Homosexuality may occur in some animals, but that is the result of confusion
Confusion... you mean like when deer run back into a fire, or when flys are attracted to bug lights?

How does a bug light make YOU feel pussytard? Confused?

Oop I missed one
nimals also desire those feelings of pleasure, which is why skin and other parts of the body is sensitive to touch...
-Yeah it has nothing to do with avoiding things like fire and bug lights.

So do you often get pleasure and pain misconstrued pussytard? That would explain why you seem to enjoy all the people here who are laughing at you all the time.

Sep 01, 2019
@Otto
I'll bet that YOU ARE a homosexual, the way you keep coming after me in so many of the phorums that I go in to comment on the article even after all the times that I've told you that I am NOT those user names that you keep dragging out for whatever your reason.
Nobody is laughing at ME, Otto. They are ALL laughing at YOU and your crazy talk about racist black men and all that crap you talk about. Just like your above comment that makes no sense at all. Why don't you give up following me around trying so hard to get my attention, Otto. If you're looking to have sex with a man, go find one somewhere else, or check out kl31415 and maybe he'll take care of your homosexual needs.

Sep 01, 2019
SEU,

as Time Lord
as you justify
this activity

where do
little girls rights
come into these proclivities

were little girls
personality asked by these gentlemen
Whether they could come in to their toilets

because, if you ask these little girls, SEU
these little girls will give a down to earth frank reply
they will tell you SEU, Little boys have their own toilets

for SEU, little girls accompanied by their mummies
would not go in a dirty smelly boys toilet
boys are trying to get in little girls toilets

for this reason SEU, little girls and boys look angelical
men are attracted to this angelic look
which women manipulate men with their wiles

which SEU, is why men and growing boys are attracted to angelic boys
they are attracted to the beauty of girls in boys
because, nature is looking at beauty, not boys or girls

it is just this beauty of boys
is accepted to only exist in girls
so men, question their masculinity, when a boy of beauty, walks by!

Sep 01, 2019
Nature is looking at Beauty, not boys or girls

SEU, this division
of little girls
little boys

starts from this moment of existence
for centuries, little girls and boys have been gender swapping
historically, in plays

proof this beauty, of boys and girls, is as ancient, as man and women itself
as you are on a mission, SEU
to clean up this world

for SEU, you would be more constructive
if you explained, to these minded men
Nature is looking at beauty, not boys or girls

for SEU, the mind is all you have on this earth
your mind is this cause of all your proclivities
why should little children, suffer so men don't have to question, their masculinity

this issue you have explicitly discussed, SEU
is all in the mind of Natures Creations
Nature is looking at Beauty, not boys or girls

Sep 01, 2019
In gentler times - boys were Handsome, girls were Beautiful

this question, SEU
why should little children, suffer so men don't have to question, their masculinity?
it is fore men to get their priorities in order

fore men to get their little ducks in a row
for men to look at beauty in boys
without questioning their masculinity

fore every man that walks this earth
way back, in their youth
they were that angelic boy, they see all around

fore SEU, when men accept their beauty of youth, ages with time
in side every mans mind, still exist as they were all those years ago
fore SEU, the beauty of boys exists in every man and women

foreth SEU, youth, men in more gentler times - boys were Handsome, girls were Beautiful

Sep 02, 2019
In gentler times...

this question, SEU
why should little children, suffer so men don't have to question, their masculinity?
it is fore men to get their priorities in order

fore men to get their little ducks in a row
for men to look at beauty in boys
without questioning their masculinity

fore every man...
way back, in their youth
they were that angelic boy, they see...

fore SEU, when men accept their beauty of youth, ages with time
in side every mans mind, still exist as they were all those years ago
fore SEU, the beauty of boys exists in every man and women

foreth SEU, youth, men in more gentler times - boys were Handsome, girls were Beautiful
says granvile

It is said that, "the Mind is a terrible thing to waste". And it is true that human men are often looking at young boys and teens with lust in their hearts and minds. Such a predilection is usually the beginning of the end of civilised society when same-sex sexuality prevails against the normal

Sep 03, 2019
SEU, this is the crux of this matter: boy-shorts
SEU> And it is true that human men are often looking at young boys and teens with lust in their hearts and minds

Men have become
By the influence of peer pressure
Girls are beautiful and wear smart clothes
Whereas
Boys have to hide their beauty under ankle length baggy shorts
Fore SEU, why do you think the shorts girls wear are called boy-shorts?
Because SEU, these are shorts boys wear

SEU
Because of peer pressure
Boys want to wear their boy-shorts
So, now when they look at boys who do wear boy-shorts
They get embarrassed and question their masculinity

When, what all these boys really want to do, is to wear their boy-shorts!

p.s. fore SEU, girls like looking at boy's masculine thigh's, their just using their feminine wiles pretending otherwise

Sep 03, 2019
- You cannot be serious - in short-shorts -

The most famous quotation in the history of tennis
- You cannot be serious - that ball was on the line - the chalk blew up -

John McEnroe, in one of his famous outbursts!
the brat of tennis
wore
wore tennis shorts
short-shorts

Share the Moment: John McEnroe coins "You cannot be serious"

https://www.youtu...K1wyrrAU

Sep 03, 2019
There is no gene, major study concludes

For in this phys.org headline - Lies the Truth
There never was any association
Regarding the shorts boys wore
For boys could step gaily
Boys could gaily go
For now
Boys can no longer, gaily daily step out, in their boy-shorts
Because
Their shorts
Have been
Associated
With peer pressure
So now
Girls
Have borrowed
Another of their boy-friends item of clothing
And
Hoodwinked
Their boy-friends
Into thinking
Only girls wear boys, boy-shorts

So now SEU and all
Boys have to repress their yearnings
To wear the clothes they used to wear

For SEU, boy-shorts are boy's eternal frustration
That they are forever to vent their frustrations
As SEU, when you walk Tiddles through this park
And a pretty athletic boy in boy-shorts runs past
You feel you're pent up frustrations
Building up
As any normal
Red blooded male

Foreth, SEU - Nature is looking at Beauty, not boys or girls!

Sep 03, 2019
LOL My human host is a youngish man who wears such shorts, and his girlfriend likes it. They often like to be alone, and that is when I am unable to make my physorg comments until she has gone home after he drops her off at her parents' house. I suppose that someday they will marry and I will have to find a new human host to do my typing for me.
They are a very good-looking couple and they will have beautiful children someday.
Young boys are fond of playing outdoors and may fall and skin their knees, so that wearing short shorts could exacerbate the problem. But it is all up to the individual. I recall that in England during the war, most young boys wore shorts and girls wore dresses and pinafores. That was the style back then for children.

Sep 03, 2019
Boy-shorts
SEU> LOL My human host is a youngish man

Considering the explicit conversations that were taking place
Before Boy-shorts made their appearance

As the article states - there is no gene!
It is in the mind

As daft as Boy-shorts appears to be, in such an article
The answer SEU, to the many of your explicit, discussions
Lies
In
Cloth
Needle
And
Thread
- Boy-shorts -

So SEU
As you chortle to yourself
How this problem
Has turned out
To be an hilarious conclusion

And so it should
Fore you should never
Ever
Forget
Little children, read this site, of phys.org

Sep 05, 2019
This study did not rule out epigenetic factors, which always seemed more possible than a gay gene. Unlike genetic mutations, epigenetic changes are much more common, and often occur during an individual's lifetime. A gay gene, if one occurred, would have been heavily selected out of the gene pool, since reproduction involves a male and a female. A "gay epigenetic change", if it exists, would happen more frequently and probably be caused by some environmental factor. Epigenetic changes are often inheritable, and could last for generations although they would tend be selected out of the gene pool as would a "gay gene".


Why, to me, that somehow lends credence to the claim that homosexuality can be cured. Since the epigenome is altered during life. It would be interesting to know if people are born this way or become during early development.

Sep 05, 2019
Epigenetic changes are often inheritable, and could last for generations although they would tend be selected out of the gene pool as would a "gay gene".

I wonder if that is true. I think it is probable that, only until say the last 20 years, lots of gay men and women did marry and produce children. So, it would be interesting to see if the coming-out era results in fewer gays.

/ Send money for study

Sep 10, 2019
Even though this study clearly shows there is no gene that causes anyone to be gay, they are still reaching with their conclusions. There is actually a lot of double talk in this article. If there is no gay gene then how is there logically genetic influence. Again, they are saying that the gene for smell MIGHT be an influence or the gene for male pattern Baldness MIGHT be an influence so you are using suppositions to come to a conclusion. Well lets talk about genetic variation. There are factors that cause genetic variations, it doesn't just happen. So if we suppose that there is a genetic variation that causes "gayness" then there is a factor that causes the gene to switch on. Of course, since no gene exists that switches on or off in a gay person then its proof that is has absolutely no tie to genetics. Zero genetic influences at all and all to do with other factors outside of the genes.

Sep 20, 2019
I can think of two gay Genes: Gene Davis and Gene Curtis Harrington

Did you confirm, by taking down their genes?

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